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Twilight: You've gotta be kidding me.

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Sparkles? Seriously?
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Lago PARANOIA wrote:Sparkles? Seriously?
I live in Eastern Europe and don't see new movies. What are you talking about?

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I didn't see that move because I'm so fucking sick of vampires.
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There's a book series about vampires called Twilight. A movie based on some part of the series came out recently. In Twilight, vampires avoid the sun not because it kills them, but because it causes their skin to sparkle.

Yeah, the vampires-as-sex metaphor is fairly unsubtle in that property.
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/sigh...

I envy your blissful ignorance of this annoying vampire book/movie tween girl craze.
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I haven't seen the movie nor read the book, but I did see an Entertainment Weekly cover where the fucking male lead was sparkling.

I thought that was a parody, not a serious film, so I pointed that out to a buddy and they told me that the vampires were supposed to do that.

And I was like 'what? what the hell could cause a vampire to sparkle' and they were all 'sunlight'.

I thought I was in for one hilarious urban fantasy parody; imagine my disappointment when I found out that Twilight was your standard horny teen girl potboiler.
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In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
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Honestly, I thought it was part of the Anita Blake series.

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I've actually been following the reviews of the series, as something of a bit of amateur cultural observation.

To be honest, what sells the series is the romantic lead male, Edward. Let's just say he's pale and pretty and he's always right--to the point of him stepping into a girl's life and basically taking it over and managing things for her, and there's a lot of people who want that sort of thing in their significant other. For reasons I can intellectually acknowledge but not emotionally identify with.

Really, the best analysis I've seen on it has been on the website Smart Bitches, Trashy Books.

This is the review of the book...

http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/ ... nie-meyer/

And here's some attention dedicated to Sir Edward of Sparklyville.

http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/ ... ut-edward/

Oh, and here's a trailer, and then a parody of a trailer. The actual trailer's on the bottom. I swear they have the same guy in the hoodie saying "She's not one of us!" in both of them...

http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/ ... ght-movie/
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FrankTrollman wrote: I live in Eastern Europe
Well there's your problem.


I see Stephenie Meyer as the Anne Rice of our times. Perhaps not as mopey, unstable, or shallowminded of an author, but certainly marketable.
There's ALWAYS a plethora of chunky goth wiccans to cash in on, a renewable economic resource of Western culture.

I just find it sad that many of those same Twilight fans answer with a "hunh?" when asked what they think of Interview with a Vampire, movie or novel (movie: decent; novel: yawn).
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Oh, there's a high chance she's on prozac and is unstable and shallowminded.

She's from Utah, and is a Mormon in good standing.

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You know, reading the blogging of her book through an ex-Mormon perspective makes me feel bad for her.

Do Mormons really go through all that the LJer implied? That's really messed up.
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In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
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sigma999 wrote:
FrankTrollman wrote: I live in Eastern Europe
Well there's your problem.


I see Stephenie Meyer as the Anne Rice of our times. Perhaps not as mopey, unstable, or shallowminded of an author, but certainly marketable.
There's ALWAYS a plethora of chunky goth wiccans to cash in on, a renewable economic resource of Western culture.

I just find it sad that many of those same Twilight fans answer with a "hunh?" when asked what they think of Interview with a Vampire, movie or novel (movie: decent; novel: yawn).
The Wiccans and goths I know fucking hate Twilight. It's the preppy little blond bimbos that seem to love it down here in Texas.
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You're in Texas, uber? My sister lives in Texas.

...Sorry, that's all I have to add to this thread.
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Talisman wrote:You're in Texas, uber? My sister lives in Texas.

...Sorry, that's all I have to add to this thread.
Fo' Sho. DFW area currently. Any reason that I seemed like a Yankee?
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ubernoob wrote:
Talisman wrote:You're in Texas, uber? My sister lives in Texas.

...Sorry, that's all I have to add to this thread.
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DFW? hmm looks like we have several Denners in that area. If I'm right, Fbmf and Ramnza live somewhere in the same vicinity as well. I live in Denton these days.
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A_Cynic wrote:
ubernoob wrote:
Talisman wrote:You're in Texas, uber? My sister lives in Texas.

...Sorry, that's all I have to add to this thread.
Fo' Sho. DFW area currently. Any reason that I seemed like a Yankee?
DFW? hmm looks like we have several Denners in that area. If I'm right, Fbmf and Ramnza live somewhere in the same vicinity as well. I live in Denton these days.
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dammit, I've got like one person in my vicinety, and to call it "my vicinity" is stretching the definition by a lot...

on topic: My girlfriend has become obsessed with the blood sucking fae, fortunately she's well versed in Ann Rice, Annita Blake, and actual folk lore...
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
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Prak_Anima wrote:dammit, I've got like one person in my vicinety, and to call it "my vicinity" is stretching the definition by a lot...

on topic: My girlfriend has become obsessed with the blood sucking fae, fortunately she's well versed in Ann Rice, Annita Blake, and actual folk lore...
I would call neither Anne Rice nor Anita blake a fortunate occurence.

In other news: Sparkling as a symbolism for Vampires makes no sense.
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ubernoob wrote:The Wiccans and goths I know fucking hate Twilight. It's the preppy little blond bimbos that seem to love it down here in Texas.
Must be a different subculture arrangement than here on the east coast.
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Maxus wrote:Really, the best analysis I've seen on it has been on the website Smart Bitches, Trashy Books.

This is the review of the book...

http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/ ... nie-meyer/
I read all 4 reviews.

They hurt my brain.

Damn you, Smeyers. Damn you, Maxus, for pointing it out.
Damn you sparkly Mormon vampires and pedophile werewolves!!!

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Yeah, the thing that got me about Twilight is that the female lead is around 16 years old, and the male lead is around 100. Great grampa is robbing the cradle.

The sparkle thing is really no worse than Underworld's werehorse lichens.
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A_Cynic wrote:In other news: Sparkling as a symbolism for Vampires makes no sense.
Sure it does. Vampires are used as a metaphor for a lot of things, death, disease, nobles, sex, etc. In Twilight, they're exclusively a metaphor for sex. Sex is awesome, so vampires are awesome.

But sex (and thus vampires) in broad daylight is (are) awesome and super-pretty. The only downside is that people will get all up in your face about it.
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